Previously on the healthcare reform and the Constitution debate:
And now — The Crescendo (mine, at least)
Before I get this thing going, I’ve got to confess: this is gonna take a while. Because I’ve got a lot I want to wrap up, I’ll try not to be boring (forgive me if I am). I just feel that this is too important a topic to just give scant attention (to which the previous blogs and Facebook posts will attest). I’ll end by simply trying to present the best case I can that our Constitution doesn’t allow for our current (or any) healthcare reform bill. I beseech your patience and willingness to hear me out. If need be, take a couple of days to read this (take three or four if you’d like). Absorb it. Have some coffee while you’re reading; listen to soothing jazz. Enjoy. But please refrain from smoking
I agree with my good friend, Carlos, that it’s probably time to wrap up our dialogue regarding the Constitution and healthcare reform. I know Carlos is in the middle of wrapping up his thoughts while continuing with all the other demands that make up our lives and I look forward to his devestating crescendo of reasons constitutionally justifying healthcare reform. In the meantime, I thought I’d get my crescendo going of why that idea is not at all constitutional (not even a little bit)…
Conventions and Sessions
There are plenty of points Carlos made regarding the constitutionality of federal healthcare reform, but since I’m crescendoing, I’ll not address each point; instead, there’s one point he made that cuts right to the heart of the issue. He writes:
I agree that understanding intent is critical – even primary – in the interpretation of any law. A few notes on this issue…
The weight of proceedings of the conventions and ratifying sessions far exceeds the later writings of those who became political actors within the system they created.
Moving On Pt 1
Yep. I agree, the Constitutional Convention where our Founders created our Counstitution as well as the ratifying state conventions that approved our Constitution ought to be examined. Even though Hamilton, Jefferson, and all my other favorite founders’ words are important after our Constitution was put into effect, Carlos is right that what was said and debated during the convention and state ratification sessions is even more important. So, what did they have to say?
Let’s Get Up To Historical Speed
If you’d allow me to quote from USConstitution.net to bring
us up to speed. The point of the quotation shows that when the framers debated whether to create a Constitution that gave Congress “general powers” (i.e., they could legislate pretty much whatever they want) or “specific powers” (i.e., they could legislate within certain parameters), the framers chose specific powers:
Some advocated giving the federal government almost total power; with the ability to overrule or approve all state legislation. But most agreed that the United States was too large to follow the European model of central control. The interests of the people of the states would be best served by allowing considerable control of the law to remain with the states.
But how to grant power to the federal government? Again, there were two schools of thought. One was to grant the federal government general powers, with interpretation left up to the congress of the time. The other was to grant specific powers to the federal government. The first choice was deemed too general, with the possibility of too much abuse; the second was considered too strict, with a congress with more power than it had currently, but unable to adapt to changing conditions. The Virginia Plan opted for the former option, considering it the lesser of two evils. With a body consisting of the executive and judiciary, some control over the legislature was provided for; it also allowed the federal government to overrule the states in some cases.
But even the authors of the Plan were not satisfied with this aspect. [James] Madison and Edmund Randolph both spoke out against this detail, but seeing nothing better, this detail remained unchanged. Not until July 16, [1787] when the issue of equal suffrage in the Senate was settled, did the subject reappear in the Convention. Now that smaller states had what they wanted, and were more confident that this new Constitution would work out, they were more willing to discuss expanding the powers of the new government. But what emerged from the debates was still the Virginia Plan’s general grant.
Then, on July 23, the Convention established a Committee of Detail to take everything discussed thus far and put it into a rough draft. As delivered on August 6, the Committee, which included [Edmund] Randolph, disregarded the general grant and proposed a list of powers (or enumeration). Surprisingly, the surreptitious change came and went with no debate. The enumerated powers were taken up on August 16, and for the next several days the enumerated powers were discussed, including one seemingly small detail at the end of the list, which allowed Congress to make all laws deemed “necessary and proper for carrying into execution” the powers listed previously. There was no debate on the point; was this the result of another compromise? Were the delegates just tired and did not see the implications? The reasons this clause passed by so smoothly is unclear. But today, it is clear to us how much power the Necessary and Proper clause grants to the federal government. (yeah, I added the emphasis)
“Necessary and Proper” Ain’t Treated So Proper
So the Constitutional Convention agreed on enumerated powers. One of those enumerated powers was the Necessary and Proper Clause – many will point to that clause as giving Congress the needed authority to make a healthcare reform bill it believes is necessary and proper. Does the clause really do that? Well, not quite (actually, not at all).
The state ratifying sessions took up discussion regarding Necessary and Proper Clause. What in the world did this clause mean? Could the federal government simply say, “We’re creating this law because we believe it’s necessary and proper for us to do so”? The states had that same question as well, and here’s how they understood it:
…the subsequent [necessary and proper] clause, which gives them
power to make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof, I understand that clause as not going a single step beyond the delegated powers. What can it act upon? Some power given by this Constitution. If they should be about to pass a law in consequence of this clause, they must pursue some of the delegated powers, but can by no means depart from them, or arrogate any new powers; for the plain language of the clause is, to give them power to pass laws in order to give effect to the delegated powers.
Edmund Pendleton, President of the Virginia ratifying convention
(emphasis added)
The [Necessary and Proper] clause which was affectedly called the sweeping clause contained no new grant of power. To illustrate this position, he [George Nicholas] observed that, if it had been added at the end of every one of the enumerated powers, instead of being inserted at the end of all, it would be obvious to any one that it was no augmentation of power. If, for instance, at the end of the clause granting power to lay and collect taxes, it had been added that they should have power to make necessary and proper laws to lay and collect taxes, who could suspect it to be an addition of power? As it would grant no new power if inserted at the end of each clause, it could not when subjoined to the whole.
George Nicholas, Virginia delegate (emphasis added)
Note also Randy Barnett’s insight on the N&P clause:
The likely reason why the Necessary and Proper Clause received no attention by the Convention became clear during the debates in the ratification conventions, as did its public meaning. There, opponents of the Constitution pointed to this power as evidence that the national government had unlimited and undefined powers. In the New York Convention, for example, John Williams contended that it ‘is perhaps utterly impossible fully to define this power. For this reason, [w]hatever they judge necessary for the proper administration of the powers lodged in them, they may execute without any check or impediment.’
Meanwhile, Federalist supporters of the Constitution repeatedly denied the charge that Congress had discretion in defining the scope of its own powers. They insisted that the Necessary and Proper Clause was not an additional freestanding grant of power, but merely made explicit what was already implicit in the grant of each enumerated power. As explained by George Nicholas to the Virginia Convention, “the Constitution had enumerated all the powers which the general government should have, but did not say how they were to be exercised. It therefore, in this clause, tells how they shall be exercised.”…
In short, “[t]his clause only enables them to carry into execution the powers given to them, but gives them no additional power.” [James] Madison added his voice to the chorus: “the sweeping clause.., only extended to the enumerated powers. Should Congress attempt to extend it to any power not enumerated, it would not be warranted by the clause.”…
The same point was made in the North Carolina Convention [by Archibald Maclaine]: “This clause specifies that they shall make laws to carry into execution all the powers vested by this Constitution; consequently, they can make no laws to execute any other power. This clause gives no new power, but declares that those already given are to be executed by proper laws.” In Pennsylvania, James Wilson explained that this Clause “is saying no more than that the powers we have already particularly given, shall be effectually carried into execution.” And [Delaware’s delegate] Thomas M’Kean insisted that “it gives to Congress no further powers than those already enumerated.”
“The Original Meaning of the Necessary and Proper Clause” pp. 185-186 (emphasis added)
So Edmund Pendleton, George Nicholas, and James Madison of Virginia, Archibald Maclaine of North Carolina, James Wilson of Pennsylvania, and Thomas McKean of Delaware all understood the N&P clause to mean that Congress could do what was necessary and proper to carry out the constitutionally enumerated powers it had; N&P didn’t give Congress anything else. Those currently maintaining this view are clearly at odds with the historical facts of the founders’ position on this issue.
What you’ll find is that when the Anti-Federalists (they actually liked to call themselves Republicans) cried the N&P was foul language (politically speaking, of course ), it was the Federalists who insisted that the N&P Clause ought to be understood as substantiating the enumerated powers of Article 1 Section 8, not broadening them. This is no small point, my friends: neither the Federalists nor the Republicans supported a broad interpretation of N&P! Still, just to be on the safe side, many states ratified the Constitution with the written declaration in their ratification that they (the states) would keep all powers not specifically given up in the Constitution and the federal government wouldn’t have any additional powers not specifically delegated to them in the Constitution. And just to be doubly sure, they demanded a Bill of Rights with one of the rights being, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people” (what we know as our beloved 10th Amendment).
So What Did The States Have to Say?
I’ve included excerpts below from the state ratifying conventions showing that they wanted to make sure that by ratifying the Constitution the federal government wouldn’t take on more power than what it was expressly delegated.
New Hampshire
The Convention having impartially discussed and fully considered the Constitution for the United States of America, …Do, in the name and behalf of the people of the state of New Hampshire, assent to and ratify the said Constitution for the United States of America. And as it is the opinion of this Convention, that certain amendments and alterations in the said Constitution would remove the fears and quiet the apprehensions of many of the good people of this state, and more effectually guard against an undue administration of the federal government, — The Convention do therefore recommend that the following alterations and provisions be introduced in the said Constitution: —
That it be explicitly declared that all powers not expressly and particularly delegated by the aforesaid Constitution are reserved to the several states, to be by them exercised.
New Hampshire Ratification of Constitution (emphasis added)
New York
That the powers of government may be reassumed by the people whensoever it shall become necessary to their happiness; that every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by the said Constitution clearly delegated to the Congress of the United States, or the departments of the government thereof, remains to the people of the several states, or to their respective state governments, to whom they may have granted the same; and that those clauses in the said Constitution, which declare that Congress shall not have or exercise certain powers, do not imply that Congress is entitled to any powers not given by the said Constitution; but such clauses are to be construed either as exceptions to certain specified powers, or as inserted merely for greater caution.
New York Ratification of Constitution (emphasis added)
It’s interesting to note that New York’s own Alexander Hamilton proposed the following wording for the Constitution during the Philadelphia Convention:
I. The Supreme Legislative power of the United States of America to be vested in two different bodies of men; the one to be called the Assembly, the other the Senate who together shall form the Legislature of the United States with power to pass all laws whatsoever subject to the Negative hereafter mentioned.
(emphasis added)
Notice that the framers had the perfect opportunity to take out all the guesswork about what power Congress had by simply approving Hamilton’s wording. Guess what? His proposal wasn’t even put to a vote.
Massachusetts
During Massachusetts’ ratifying convention, delegate William Cushing said:
The fact is (& it is a selfevident proposition)—we retain all that we do not part with.
And this is the only safe Idea that the freemen of America can rest upon when they assemble to draw up forms & delegate powers of govmt.
And therefore it is that in the Constitution of New York, & a number of others, there is no bill of rights at all; going Upon this Sure ground, that no authority could be exercised over the people but such as should be expressly granted by them; which in my opinion is better & safer than any bill of rights that the wisest mortal can draw by attempting particular enumeration of rights.
It is said still that without the guard of a bill of rights, Congress might even prescribe a religion to us; That could not be without a downright usurpation which we should have as good a right to refuse without a bill of rights as with one—I will put a plain case precisely in point.
A man makes a power of atty to his friend to receive monies due upon certain notes of hand, which he specifies, with dates Sums & names. Does such a power authorise the Atty to receive monies upon any other notes (not named) or to touch real Estate? No more can Congress impose a Religion upon us without color of warrant or authority a Shadow of authority given in anyone paragraph of the whole System.
The doctrine that rulers may have the Controll of the peoples rights, without their grant; is better adapted to the despotic monarchies of the East than to this Enlightned Country—and our Constituents will have no reason to thank us for placing their Liberties upon so dangerous a foundation, as necessarily implies that they are all born slaves, instead of being born free & equal. (emphasis added)
When it was time to vote on ratification, Massachussets did so, with their first stipulation being, “That it be explicitly declared that all powers not expressly delegated by the aforesaid Constitution are reserved to the several states, to be by them exercised” (USConstitution.net, emphasis added)
Rhode Island
Rhode Island’s ratification states:
III. That the powers of government may be reassumed by the people whensoever it shall become necessary to their happiness. That the rights of the states respectively to nominate and appoint all state officers, and every other power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by the said Constitution clearly delegated to the Congress of the United States, or to the departments of government thereof, remain to the people of the several states, or their respective state governments, to whom they may have granted the same; and that those clauses in the Constitution which declare that Congress shall not have or exercise certain powers, do not imply that Congress is entitled to any powers not given by the said Constitution; but such clauses are to be construed as exceptions to certain specified powers, or as inserted merely for greater caution. (emphasis added)
Virginia
During Virginia’s ratifying convention, delegate George Nicholas said—
The Constitution cannot be binding on Virginia, but with these conditions. If thirteen individuals are about to make a contract, and one agrees to it, but at the same time declares that he understands its meaning, signification, and intent, to be, (what the words of the contract plainly and obviously denote,) that it is not to be construed so as to impose any supplementary condition upon him, and that he is to be exonerated from it whensoever any such imposition shall be attempted, — I ask whether, in this case, these conditions, on which he has assented to it, would not be binding on the other twelve. In like manner these conditions will be binding on Congress. They can exercise no power that is not expressly granted them. (emphasis added)
Note Mr. Nicholas’ point: we understand this Constitution to mean that the federal government will not have power that is not expressly granted to them. That is our understanding, and if the federal government seeks to revise that understanding to mean it can have more power, then we Virginians have the right to consider our obligation to follow the Constitution null and void.
Wow, can you imagine that…?
Edmund Randolph added:
It [the Constitution] declares that all power comes from the people, and whatever is not granted by them, remains with them; that among other things remaining with them, are liberty of the press, right of conscience, and some other essential rights. Could you devise any express form of words, by which the rights contained in the bill of rights of Virginia could be better secured or more fully comprehended? What is the paper which he offers in the form of a bill of rights? Will that better secure our rights than a declaration like this? All rights are therein declared to be completely vested in the people, unless expressly given away. Can there be a more pointed or position reservation? (emphasis added)
Virginia’s ratification ultimately towed the same line, saying:
1st. That each state in the union shall respectively retain every power, jurisdiction and right, which is not by this constitution delegated to the Congress of the United States, or to the departments of the [Federal] Government.
North Carolina
North Carolina’s ratification included—
That each state in the Union shall respectively retain every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Constitution delegated to the Congress of the United States, or to the departments of the federal government. (emphasis added)
South Carolina
This Convention doth also declare, that no section or paragraph of the said Constitution warrants a construction that the states do not retain every power not expressly relinquished by them, and vested in the general government of the Union.
USConstitution.net (emphasis added)
Connecticut
The powers vested in the federal government are only such as respect the common interests of the Union, and are particularly defined, so that each State retains its sovereignty in what respects its own internal government, and a right to exercise every power of a sovereign State not delegated to the United States. And tho’ the general government in matters within its jurisdiction is paramount to the constitutions and laws of the particular States, yet all acts of the Congress not warranted by the constitution would be void.
Roger Sherman (emphasis added)
Pennsylvania
It will be proper … to mark the leading discrimination between the State constitutions and the constitution of the United States. When the people established the powers of legislation under their separate governments, they invested their representatives with every right and authority which they did not in explicit terms reserve; and therefore upon every question respecting the jurisdiction of the House of Assembly, if the frame of government is silent, the jurisdiction is efficient and complete. But in delegating federal powers, another criterion was necessarily introduced, and the congressional power is to be collected, not from tacit implication, but from the positive grant expressed in the instrument of the union. Hence, it is evident, that in the former case everything which is not reserved is given; but in the latter the reverse of the proposition prevails, and everything which is not given is reserved.
James Wilson (emphasis added)
Maryland
Although I couldn’t find any direct documentation regarding Maryland’s ratification, they weren’t about to be left out of the expressly delegated party the other state ratification conventions had started:
The [Maryland] committee recommended thirteen proposed amendments. Fifteen others were rejected by the committee majority [Federalists]. The minority insisted on their right to present some of their amendments to the convention, but the majority then decided not to consider any amendments and voted not even to consider the yeas and nays. The minority, however, appealed to the court of public opinion and issued all twenty-eight proposed amendments in pamphlet form. This minority Address, was widely distributed; we know that a copy reached Jefferson in Paris. The amendments originally recommended by the Maryland committee were that (1) Congress shall exercise no power not expressly delegated…
Schwartz, Bernard, The Great Rights of Mankind: A History of the American Bill of Rights; Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, Inc. 1992 pp. 129-130
(emphasis added)
I couldn’t find any relevant info regarding Delaware, Georgia, or New Jersey’s conventions, but I hope it’s apparent from the ten states’ evidence I did find that this issue was no small point. Both the Constitutional Convention and the state ratifying conventions were unified in denouncing the broad, sweeping powers we today think belongs to the federal government and instead favored the limited, enumerated, expressly and specifically delegated powers written in our Constitution. Nothing more, nothing extra. No artificial sweeteners, additives or fillers…
It’s The Homestretch – We’re Almost There
So let me bring my crescendo to a crescendo:
What was discussed during the Constitution Convention and the state ratifying conventions is enormously important in understanding what the Framers wanted us to do with the Constitution they wrote:
- The Framers repeatedly emphasized that the Constitution gave the federal government no more power than what it was expressly delegated
- The N&P Clause was never meant to give the federal government broad, sweeping power to enact any laws it deemed necessary and proper, but only to substantiate the enumerated powers in the Constitution. Or, as Edmund Pendleton put it, “the plain language of the clause is, to give [Congress] power to pass laws in order to give effect to the delegated powers.”
Thus, if you look at the delegated powers the Constitution allows Congress you’ll find nothing that gives the legislature authority to enact healthcare reform; in case you don’t believe me, I listed them below for your enjoyment:
- To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States
I can hear some of my friends bring up, “See there, providing for the general welfare is in the Constitution, therefore healthcare reform, which provides for the general welfare, is constitutional.”
Hold on a minute, because James Madison had a different take:
Some, who have not denied the necessity of the power of taxation, have grounded a very fierce attack against the Constitution, on the language in which it is defined. It has been urged and echoed, that the power “to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States,” amounts to an unlimited commission to exercise every power which may be alleged to be necessary for the common defense or general welfare. No stronger proof could be given of the distress under which these writers labor for objections, than their stooping to such a misconstruction.
Had no other enumeration or definition of the powers of the Congress been found in the Constitution, than the general expressions just cited, the authors of the objection might have had some color for it; though it would have been difficult to find a reason for so awkward a form of describing an authority to legislate in all possible cases. A power to destroy the freedom of the press, the trial by jury, or even to regulate the course of descents, or the forms of conveyances, must be very singularly expressed by the terms “to raise money for the general welfare.”
But what color can the objection have, when a specification of the objects alluded to by these general terms immediately follows, and is not even separated by a longer pause than a semicolon? If the different parts of the same instrument ought to be so expounded, as to give meaning to every part which will bear it, shall one part of the same sentence be excluded altogether from a share in the meaning; and shall the more doubtful and indefinite terms be retained in their full extent, and the clear and precise expressions be denied any signification whatsoever? For what purpose could the enumeration of particular powers be inserted, if these and all others were meant to be included in the preceding general power? Nothing is more natural nor common than first to use a general phrase, and then to explain and qualify it by a recital of particulars. But the idea of an enumeration of particulars which neither explain nor qualify the general meaning, and can have no other effect than to confound and mislead, is an absurdity, which, as we are reduced to the dilemma of charging either on the authors of the objection or on the authors of the Constitution, we must take the liberty of supposing, had not its origin with the latter.
Federalist 41 (emphasis added)
So as far as Madison the Federalist was concerned, he wasn’t promoting a broad view of “general welfare”, he was promoting a contextual, limited view.
I continue the enumeration…
- To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
- To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
Again, I can hear some of my friends say, “The Commerce Clause allows Congress to establish healthcare reform since healthcare is within the realm of commerce.”
Hold on another minute, because Madison has something to say about this as well:
The defect of power in the existing Confederacy to regulate the commerce between its several [states], is in the number of those which have been clearly pointed out by experience… It may be added that without [the Commerce Clause], the great and essential power of regulating foreign commerce would have been incomplete and ineffectual. A very material object of this power was the relief of the States which import and export through other States, from the improper contributions levied on them by the latter.
Federalist 42 (emphasis added)
What Madison is pointing out is that the Commerce Clause was meant to deal with a problem that the Articles of Confederation (our first Constitution) couldn’t deal with: that is, states imposing tariffs on other states, thus impeding commerce.
“But the framers were simply addressing an issue that was relevant to them at their time; they couldn’t possibly have imagined the current healthcare crisis we’re in.”
That may be true, but then according to our Constitution, healthcare would be an issue for the states to deal with, not the federal government (remember, enumerated powers? Whatever isn’t expressly delegated to federal government belongs to the states…). Besides, regulating commerce and becoming part of the commercial enterprise (which is what government healthcare would do) are two very different things.
Back to my enumeration…
- To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
- To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
- To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
- To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;
- To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
- To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
- To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
- To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
- To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
- To provide and maintain a Navy;
- To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
- To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
- To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
- To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And
- To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
You’ll remember, we’ve already looked at the N&P clause and found that it also has been given more power than was originally intended.
TA DAAA!!!
So there’s my crescendo!! Add to this all the other meanderings and soap boxings I’ve posted in the past about how the Founders (my buds, Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton, and the whole gang) wanted the limited federal government I’ve presented and documented above, and you can see that our nation has fallen woefully from where our Constitution calls us to be.
Now this doesn’t mean that we’re to do nothing. There is a serious problem with our healthcare; it needs to be fixed and there are good alternatives out there to bring to the table. I’m not saying we shouldn’t do anything. Far be it from us to be hard-hearted and unwilling to see what solutions there are for those who fall through the cracks, who are trying but still can’t seem to stay afloat. Yes, we need to find solutions, but I’m saying we’re obligated as citizens under the Constitution to find solutions that are constitutional. For example:
- The Heritage Foundation recommends a more principled and patient-centered path for healthcare reform)
- Columnist Charles Krauthammer says we should utterly scrap the current healthcare bill and start over, tackling the issue one point at a time
- And for those who hold to more than the legal/political standard, our calling ought to be to find solutions that are biblical (see my Facebook Note, A Biblical View of Health Care)
I appreciate the time I had to dialogue with Carlos, Jason, and Alex, and all the many others who contributed on both sides of the debate. Thanks for chiming in.
I’m sure for some this was more of a long and drawn out yawn than a crescendo. Still, I laid out the historical evidence as best I could. With all this said, I’ll say no more (unless you want me to) and let you decide.
Thanks again for reading. Blessings to all, and to all a good night.